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Upsize your PS3 hard drive

By James Yu, GameSpot.com
29/07/2008



 

It doesn't matter if you have the 20GB, 40GB, 60GB, or even the 80GB PlayStation 3--you can always use more storage space. All that available harddisk space quickly disappears once you start downloading games, demos, and HD videos. Fortunately, Sony has designed the PS3 to allow console owners to perform their own hard drive upgrades. You can go out and select your own hard drive instead of being forced to buy an official first-party harddisk accessory. However, giving console owners that freedom means aspiring upgraders will need to know how to select the right hard drive upgrade and the proper installation technique.


Harddisk manufacturer Seagate supplied us with a 160GB Momentus 5400.3 for our upgrade.

The first step to replacing the harddisk is going to the store or visiting an online retailer to pick up a new harddisk. The PS3 is compatible with just about any 2.5-inch SATA notebook harddisk. The physical size of the harddisk is important because it has to fit the PS3's 2.5-inch drive tray. As far as storage capacity goes, it doesn't make sense to go through the trouble of upgrading unless you go big: We're talking 160GB, 250GB, 320GB or even 500GB.

Once you have your upgrade drive, the next step is to backup the data on your current PS3 hard drive to an external storage unit. You can skip this step if you aren't attached to your music, videos, and game saves, but most of us will probably want to save all that information. The PS3 has a built-in software backup utility that can copy the PS3's hard drive contents to an external storage device, such as a USB thumb drive or a Memory Stick. The removable storage device must use the FAT32 file system in order for the PS3 to recognize it. If you have an external hard drive that's formatted in NTFS, you can use the Disk Management utility in Windows to reformat the drive, but you'll need to create partitions on large external hard drives because Windows can do only FAT32 on drives 32GB or smaller.

 

 
 

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virtualess says...
Good article.

Here are some questions I believe some other PS3 owners would like to find out:

1) Would there be a drop in access speed if larger size is used? Say 250GB vs 160GB?
2) For all games that are purchased online (like fLow) and other demo games, would they be backed up? I read somewhere else vaguely that this is so but would be confined to the unit of PS3 you are using.
3) Is there a good and practical software that convert DVD movies (personal) to the format that PS3 play (and ditto for PSP)?

 
 
Georgester says...
I don't have a PS3 and I'm interested in the new 40Gb so I'd be interested to know too. But I think

1) I think it depends on the RPM of the HDD.
2) I think you would need to back it up too. I think if you backup the hard disk, everything saved goes with it. I'm not too sure.
3) You can play DVD movies on the PS3. But I don't really know any freeware software that would do it although there are a few good shareware (trial before pay) software that can for the PSP. I don't know about the PS3 on that.

 
 
litford says...
i'm just wondering if this will void my warranty?

 
 
azpunkguy says...
You won’t void your warranty, not will the size slow down the access speed I recommend that you go with a 7200 RMP drive 200 or 250 GIG, spend the money and you wont be disappointed, I'm not! You can find these drives at tigerdirect.com or other online sources. Follow the directions here and everything will work out great!

 
 
mlfcrash says...
I am wondering, I ordered a 320GB 5400 rmp HDD will there be a noticeable difference in performance then the current 20GB HDD, or a HDD w/ 320 GB 7200 RMP?

Thank you
~Mark

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L3371 says...
The heat output of a 7200rpm drive will increase over 5400rpm as will the heat from a 250Gb over 160Gb.
Anyone tried a Solid State Drive in their PS3 yet?
I am looking forward to purchasing the new 256GB SSD as there is nearly no heat and the read/write times are nearly half that of standard HDD. Power consumption is also reduced.

 
 
Oroz says...
Use a External Harddrive and install yellow dog linux or just use a Max Drive 160 HDD its easy and u can take it off and use it with your Windows to move MP3, moves ect around easy fast and u dont have to use Linux if u dont want to. and its not bad for around $160us www.play-asia.com...

 
 
MARCMICH says...
How, or can I use external hardrives? I just purchased a cavalry 500 gb usb External hardrive. The ps3 didn't recognize it. I really don't know much about "partitioning" as I'm afraid that in the format stage I'll erase the ps3 hardrive.

 
 
Venazard says...
I have some questions.
1). Will all the games I've downloaded still be in my account? After all I don't want to have to repurchase them.
2). Where would I be able to purchase a 250GB Hardrive & for how much in U.S. Dollars?
Any help would be nice. Thank You.

 
 
Venazard says...
Another question. Will any brand that fits the correct size of 2.5 inches work or are there any specific brands that will only work? Thanks

 
 
skullpr says...
Hey everyone, first off I would like to congrats on a nice and simple step-by-step explanation on the HDD swap. I got a PS3 a few months ago, and I've been searching a lot to change my HDD and install another OS as well. Now, I'm no expert but what I've learned so far (and I'd appreciate any corrections) is:

MARCMICH
I have a Seagate 500GB HD, and it doesn't detect it either. If I'm not mistaken it has to be NTFS format. You can look it up in google.com (ntfs for ps3), maybe that will help.

VENAZARD
About the downloaded games you can download them to the same platform up to 5 times, without having to repurchase. You can find prety descent prices at newegg.com, and there are 7200 RPM drives at tigerdirect.com. The make of the HDD doesn't matter as long as its 2.5" and its a SATA drive.

Hope that helps you, any corrections will be greatly appreciated.

 
 
hodriver says...
IN RESPONSE TO virtualess' QUESTION CONCERNING CONVERTING DVD VIDEO TO PS3 COMPATIBLE VIDEO FILE FORMATS:

I'm not at all familiar with the codec support profile of the PSP. However, I do know for a fact that the PS3 supports the DivX/XviD codec. This means that anyone interested can simply take a ripped DVD and convert it to an *.avi file for streaming or local playback on the PS3; and it can all be done with freeware to boot!

First and foremost, you'll need a utility for backing up/ripping DVDs. It has been my experience that the freeware application, DVD-Shrink, is the most intuitive and feature rich application with which to do this. However, I've not seen it available for download for some time now. You may want to see if it's floating around anywhere as a torrent; although I'm certainly not suggesting you take that as a first option. DVD-Decryptor is an acceptable alternative but lacks the compression functionality of DVD-Shrink (to my knowledge).

Next, you'll want to find a suitable freeware utility to transcode your video to DivX or XviD. Luckily, one can nowadays easily convert video to DivX using the freeware utility Dr. DivX from DivX labs. This utility allows one to convert a variety of formats to DivX video with either original Dolby Digital audio (AC3), or compressed MP3 audio; although I suggest MP3 encoding be avoided due to A/V synchronization issues that tend to arise with DivX/XviD encoding and playback.

Then, once you've successfully re-encoded your new video, change the file extension of the new DivX file from *.divx to *.avi to avoid unnecessary complications that can arise from DivX's stupid attempt at making their format appear special and proprietary. Just for the record, this is suggested because not all software media players will recognize a *.divx file as playable; even though the only difference between a *.divx DivX file and an *.avi DivX file is the extension.

Last, you'll want to open the newly re-encoded file to assure that it's playable. I suggest trying to play it with Windows Media Player; simply because all Windows PCs will have it installed and it's a decent media player. After that, you'll just need to get it to the PS3. You can burn it to a disc (CD/DVD), write it to a memory card, copy it to a thumb drive, or my favorite, stream it to your PS3 on your home network with a UPnP server. However, the UPnP media server is an entirely different discussion.

I hope this answers your question, even though I failed to offer an equivalent option for the PSP.

 
 
THECHEF714 says...
I RECENTLY INSTALLED A 250G INTERNAL HDD ..... IT WORK'S FINE.
THEN I GOT A ENCLOSURE FOR THE 20G THAT CAME OUT OF THE PS3 TO USE IT AS AN EXT HDD
BUT THE PS3 DON'T SEE IT...?????

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT !!!!!!

 
 
SlaveToPS3 says...
I am installing a 320 Toshiba this week. I don't have an external HD but I do have 3 8MB Sony Memory sticks. Can I transfer all my videos and images a little bit at a time? If not can I somehow use my Sony laptop to store the data? What else can I do?
PLEASE HELP!!

 
 
striderhayasa says...
forgive me if this has been mentioned before but, PS3 formats internal drives in its own format, external drives must be formatted in Fat32 or the PS3 won't see it. if an internal drive is put into an external enclosure, it's a safe bet that the enclosed drive has to be reformatted as Fat32. WinXP can reformat any size drive if you use a utility called "swissknife"(?) without the retarded 32GB partitions. OSX can reformat any size drive to Fat32 as well. Just use disk utility-select the drive-select "ms-dos" as the new format-erase the drive-wait 30 minutes or so (it took 30 minutes for my 500GB external) done.

Hope this helps

@SlaveToPS3 I believe you can. as long as you have a usb reader for the memsticks. if that doesn't work, most thumb drives will do. even an IPOD should do nicely as the ps3 only sees it as a usb device. if all else fails, just get a cheap external drive.

 
 
gtoddf says...
I thought that this might be doable. The PS3 is really more of a console-PC hybrid. Now to attempt a dual boot Fedora/Windows XP with Grub...

 
 
lostbrothertwo says...
i have a question?.i hav been waiting for my 80 gb ps3 for so long now and i decided to buy a 40 gb ps3 instead.i hav a 60 gb at home but it isnt workin anymore.so can i take out my 60 gb hardrive and put it in my 40 gb ps3?email me please at certifyer01_10@hotmail.com

THANKYOU!!!

 
 
bubagump says...
Hello,
I am thinking of uprgading the hardrive in my playstation 3. From what I read, I need a 2.5'' SATA drive.
Can i take out the hard drive inside my 320gb Simpletech portable hard drive and put it in the PS3? Is the drive in the portable unit a SATA drive?
thanks

 
 
emmo says...
Is there a reason for the 500Gb limit? Are there no .35" drives with greater cap[acity? Or is it a system limitation?

2nd question, related to external drives - isn't there a file-size limit on FAT drives? Or is that only a Windows limitation?
Copying avi's from my C: to an external FAT drive, I hit a limit of around 4 to 5Gb.
Given that avi's from my camera are around 13Gb per hour, that's a fair limitation.
Can anyone provide clarity around this?

 
 
GGCAN says...
@emmo...I wondered too and then found this and it works great:

www.compuapps.com...

Also to some asking about replacing one of their other harddrives...take the PS3 one out and compare them.
If they both are the same size, it will work.

 
 
merihkolat says...
yea umm i have no clue wat the hell im suppose to do i added 10ogb or something like that to my ps3 but the thing is that it wouldt let me use it. it told me to format my old the 40gb and then reinstall the system then idk wat im suppose to do after

 
 
GGCAN says...
@merihkolat


I'm wondering from your comment, why you would add a 10 GB harddrive, when you already had a 40 gb harddrive ?

What this illustration is showing is that say you have a 40 gb harddrive....it says you should go to a higher size, not downsizing from a 40 gb to a 10 gb.

I would suggest if you have a 40 gb harddrive you at least install an 80 gb harddrive or higher than an 80 gb harddrive.

You will then be able to use the system and it will not give you the message you are receiving.

Remember, if you have a 40 gb harddrive, you want to install something larger than 40.

If you have an 80 gb harddrive, you want to install a harddrive larger than 80 gb.

If you have a 20 gb harddrive, you will install one higher than 20.

You should not install a harddrive that is smaller than the current one in the PS3.

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mggcr says...
I haven't much experience..

SATA

There are SATA, SATA-300, SATA-150...

Are there any difference in compatibility for the PS3?

Or it should be plain SATA?

 
 
Chisolm2 says...
I just bought a 320gb seagate, the ps3 says "cannot start. The correct hard disk was not found." It never gives me an opportunity to format or anything. What should I do?

 
 
Chisolm2 says...
Nevermind, I pulled the hard drive out, reinserted and restarted, works like a champ now!

 
 
dbudhoo says...
i just bought a 250 gig one. I got to the step where you're supposed to unscrew the casing from the old drive and put it on the new one. Problem is, i think i broke 2 of the screws and now can't get the covering off of the casing for the old drive. What do i do? Can i put the new drive in anyway or...?

 
 
clayremy77 says...
if you stripped the screws what you need to do is to get a set of long nosed pliers.

a leatherman utility tool works best.

lay the pliers flat against the casing and use the pliers to grab the sides of the screws. grip tight and slowly turn.
the screws are in very tight but once you break them free they turn very easily.

i used this method before i even touched the screws to break them free, just to make sure i didnt strip them myself.

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